April 01, 2009

Obama's Birth Certificate***Constitutional Crisis

 This article is on a subject that must not be ignored nor shall continue to ignore the unconstitutional spending.  We are not the world reserve, are we?  If so, then maybe we need a penitence for the Security around the World.  Nope, unconstitutional, bring those troops home from WW2, Korean,etc.,  No?  Best be prepared to answer where from the constitution this authority comes from.  Everything is on the table now, everything or nothing.  Constitution or no Constitution, including this article.  If you think it is too dangerous, wait till it is too late!
 
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    Is the biggest political crime in American history taking place right before our eyes? Is the man in the White House INELIGIBLE, according to the Constitution, to sit in the Oval Office... is he a FRAUD... a USURPER?

    Barack Hussein Obama could put the issue to rest right now by simply releasing his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

    But he WON'T release his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE. In fact, he is actively RESISTING efforts to compel him to release his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

    He's dug in his heels. He has teams of lawyers fighting efforts to get him to release his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE, while his underlings look down their noses at the American people and call these legitimate requests "garbage."

    And the one pivotal question that those who attempt to dismiss the controversy cannot answer is:

    If Barack Hussein Obama has nothing to hide, what's the problem? The more he resists, the more you have to wonder.

    Meanwhile the liberal press is trying to drag this story into a dark alley and bludgeon it to death.

    It's time for you and me to weigh in and FORCE THE ISSUE! Let's call-out the liberal media.

    Let them know they must report this story and that there is nowhere to run or hide.



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Not Conspiracy Theories... Just The Facts...

     Here are some of the disturbing facts surrounding Barack Hussein Obama's ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATEnot rumors, not wild theories — just the FACTS.
FACT #1: Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States, SPECIFICALLY states, "No person except a natural born citizen of the United States, at the time of adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President..." It's NOT a technicality, or lunacy on the part of our Founding Fathers. It is a specific statement within a document that forms the basis for ALL of our laws and not open to interpretation (unless the entire Constitution should be now open to interpretation).

FACT #2: In order to be a "natural born citizen," you must be born in the United States or, if you are born abroad, you CAN (if specific circumstances are met) inherit citizenship status from your parents. If he was born abroad, then that's a problem for Barack Hussein Obama because his father was NOT a citizen of the United States and his mother had not lived in the United States the required amount of time after attaining the age of consent when Obama was born - meaning SHE COULD NOT pass her citizenship on to Obama.

FACT #3: If Barack Hussein Obama WAS NOT born in the United States, he IS NOT a "natural born citizen" and if that is the case, Obama is guilty of perpetuating the most massive fraud in the history of the United States!

FACT #4: Barack Hussein Obama has ACTIVELY REFUSED to show his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE to the people who elected him. Under Hawaiian law, only Obama can legally release the document but HE JUST WON'T DO IT! Why not?

FACT #5: Obama has multiple teams of lawyers helping him shield the document from the prying eyes of the American people. Why?

FACT #6: Instead of producing an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE
, Team Obama produced another document — a "Certification of Live Birth" — and said, in effect, "Here's his Birth Certificate! Now shut up!"

     And when it comes to FACT #6, Team Obama engaged in a sleight-of-hand that is going unnoticed by the American people, because the liberal media refuses to scrutinize the actions of Barack Hussein Obama.

     A CERTIFICATION of Live Birth and a Birth Certificate (A CERTIFICATE of Live Birth)... [notice the difference in the words "certification" and "certificate"] ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS.

     A CERTIFICATION of Live Birth - the document that Team Obama produced - is a document that essentially proves that you exist and Barack Hussein Obama most certainly EXISTS - that point is not in dispute.

     A CERTIFICATE of Live Birth (an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE) - on the other hand contains more information. It gives the specific location of your birth, the hospital, the time of birth, the attending physician etc.

     For purposes of illustration see the images below. The image on the left is the CERTIFICATION of Live Birth that Team Obama released and the image on the right is a redacted copy of an actual CERTIFICATE of Live Birth (an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE) from the State of Hawaii from approximately the same time that Obama was born.

Obama's  Certification of Live Birth (Click on the Image to Enlarge)

Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth (Click on the Image to Enlarge)

Click The Images  Above To Enlarge.


So what's the big deal?

     Simply put a CERTIFICATION of Live Birth CAN contain ERRORS.

     The State of Hawaii provides a concrete example of this point! Hawaii maintains programs to encourage property ownership for native Hawaiians.

     And pursuant to those programs, the Hawaii Department of Home Lands (DHHL) states the following on its website:

"In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL."

     If the State of Hawaii DOES NOT accept its own CERTIFICATION of Live Birth as proof that an individual was actually born in Hawaii, why should we! If Hawaii REQUIRES an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE , WHY SHOULDN'T WE!




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Demand that they pursue this REAL story with the same amount of zeal and diligence as when they reported false stories about George W. Bush's military record and false rumors about an affair that John McCain never had with a lobbyist or John McCain's constitutional eligibility to hold the office of President of the United States!

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Transparency Indeed...

     Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States, states in part, "No person except a natural born citizen of the United States, at the time of adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President."

     That means neither Arnold Schwarzenegger nor George Soros can be President of the United States. Not EVER! Neither can Osama bin Laden. It also means, as previously stated, that IF Barack Obama was born outside the United States, he is not eligible to be President of the United States.

     And Obama's paternal grandmother said, she was present at Obama's birth, which took place in Mombasa in what is now Kenya.

     So where was Obama born?

     Only an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE can answer that question (not the Certification of Live Birth that Obama produced) — and Obama has multiple teams of lawyers dedicated to the proposition that nobody — but NOBODY — gets to see the one document that can clear up this controversy. That's INSANE!

     It's OUTRAGEOUS that Obama continues to cover up the document! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO CONCLUDE THAT HE'S HIDING SOMETHING!

     In his grandiose MEMORANDUM FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES, Obama proclaimed:

"SUBJECT: Transparency and Open Government: My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government. We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration. Openness will strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness in Government."

     Just pretty words. They mean absolutely nothing to Barack Obama, the non-transparent president — IF INDEED HE IS THE PRESIDENT.



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Is This Whole Controversy Such A Big Deal Or Much Ado About Nothing?

     IT WAS for John McCain!

     You may still remember that the liberal media make a HUGE DEAL out of the fact that McCain was born in the Canal Zone, while his father, a Naval officer, was stationed there. The liberal media relentlessly questioned whether or not McCain met the constitutional test?

     But John McCain - unlike Obama - released all relevant records!

     While the Canal Zone was not American soil, McCain's parents were both American citizens who had resided in the United States for the required number of years after having reached the age of majority! McCain was good to go.

     Can we say the same for Obama? And why isn't the liberal media asking that question?

     Strangely, it may have been the liberal media's willingness to savage McCain over the issue that eventually brought this whole controversy to light.

     When Obama's grandmother claimed Obama was born in Kenya, the McCain controversy was still fresh in the minds of people who wondered - and are still wondering - why the same standard was NOT being applied to Obama.

     But, as the American people are coming to know, you are simply not allowed to criticize or scrutinize "the messiah" or hold "the chosen one" up to any standard.

     Now, just raising what was a legitimate question in regards to John McCain makes you a conspiracy theorist or nut when it comes to Obama.

     Please understand, no one is saying that Obama is NOT a "natural born citizen." What we're saying is we just don't KNOW, BECAUSE BARACK "MR. TRANSPARENCY" OBAMA WILL NOT RELEASE HIS ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.



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     In fact that's what The Western Center for Journalism has been doing for over eighteen years!

     The Western Center for Journalism was founded in 1991 by Joseph Farah (the brains behind WorldNetDaily.com) and James H. Smith (former publisher of the Sacramento Union).

     The Western Center for Journalism first made its mark following the suspicious death of Deputy White House Counsel Vincent Foster during the Clinton presidency.

     Officially ruled a suicide by authorities, reporter Christopher Ruddy — with assistance from The Center for Western Journalism — unearthed evidence that shouted, "cover up!"

     Of course, at first, few - especially in the liberal media - listened but Ruddy's persistent and dogged investigations eventually showed that the suicide ruling was phony. As it was with the Foster story, so it is today. If we are persistent, the liberal media will have no choice but to start reporting this story!

     My name is Floyd Brown and I am a syndicated columnist and veteran broadcaster. Today I lead the Western Center for Journalism, and it is a vigorous watchdog that keeps a check on government abuse and the media. The Center believes strongly in open public debate. It also believes that informed public debate requires quality journalism and reporting.

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     But today, we need your help to expose the truth. When the editors and producers of these liberal media outlets start receiving a deluge of faxes from irate and patriotic Americans like you, they'll know that they can no longer hide behind their desks!

     They'll stop distorting and start reporting!



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More Questions....

     Not to confound or confuse the issue but here's a complicating twist: the State of Hawaii permits parents to obtain a "birth certificate," EVEN IF THE CHILD WAS NOT BORN IN HAWAII.

     Below is the relevant statute:

"[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child."

     When queried, Dr Chiyome Fukino, with Hawaii's Department of Health, stated:

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

     Okay, an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE exists. Great... why can't the American people see it since it will clearly indicate the specific place of birth?

     As for Obama's inner circle, they offer a quick, arrogant reply to anyone who asks about the rumors surrounding Obama's birth certificate (and this is a direct quote):

"All I can tell you is that it is just pure garbage."

     Writer Jerome Corsi, pursuing this story, raised the following question: "If Barack Obama was born in Africa, wouldn't there be a birth certificate on file there?" So Corsi hopped a plane to Kenya, where he spent most of his time in a holding area, the next thing to a prisoner. His hotel room was ransacked. He was questioned by the police. But he was never permitted to search for a birth certificate.

     Maybe he didn't reckon on Obama's cousin, Raila Odinga. Covering up a birth would have been a piece of cake to Odinga, who has been charged with ethnic cleansing against Kenyan Christians.



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Even More Questions....

     Janet Porter, writing for WorldNetDaily.com, raises additional issues. This may be convoluted, but it is well-worth examining, if only to see the tangled web Obama has woven for himself and the American people.

"'There's the matter that Obama traveled to Indonesia, Pakistan, Southern India and Kenya in 1981. He said he went to Indonesia to see his mother. This seemed plausible, except for the fact that his mother returned to Hawaii in August of 1980 to file for a divorce from her second husband, Lolo Soetoro. Unless she went back to pal around with the man she divorced, she wasn't there at the time of Obama's visit."

"'There's another problem. No record of Obama holding an American passport prior to the one he received once becoming a U.S. senator has been found. If he traveled to Pakistan with an American passport, he wouldn't have been allowed in — since Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and under martial law. It was also on the State Department's travel ban list for U.S. citizens.... If he couldn't get into Pakistan with a U.S. passport, perhaps he went there with an Indonesian passport. But the only way you can get one of those is if you are an Indonesian citizen.'"


     Remember how Dan Rather and CBS News took a lie about George Bush's military service record and twisted it into a major news story? Remember how the New York Times put an old rumor about John McCain on its front page and tried to make it a major issue in the campaign?

     In sharp contrast, see how the New York Times and CBS News have run from this story like a rabbit runs from a coyote.



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Saving The United States Of America....

     If Obama was in fact born in Kenya, the information may save the United States from bankruptcy: Since Obama's inauguration on Jan. 20, stocks have plummeted to catastrophic lows.

     The Dow has fallen 20.4 percent. Investors have lost an estimated $2.5 trillion in market value.

     All because an arrogant young man — obsessed with 19th century Marxism — is trying to wreck the United States of America.

     But suppose he isn't legally president after all? Then that fact would surely nullify all his official acts, and acts he plans to put into place, including the following:
His recent executive order rescinding the Mexico City Policy and committing U.S. taxpayers to fund abortion worldwide;

His upcoming appointments, including FCC members who might attempt to shut down conservative talk radio;

Any treaty he might sign that would weaken our defenses in an increasingly dangerous world;

And the signing of legislation giving amnesty to illegal aliens.

     We need to act quickly before the entire nation is standing on a street corner, rattling a tin cup.



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Our Nation is in Constitutional Crisis and said crisis is being ignored by those responsible, both Parties and the bureaucracy.  Why?  No one can afford to challenge the Constitutionality as the Courts have determined only those who are a victim may challenge, thus the blocking is done.  It is the responsibility of any officer who took an oath of Office to file a complaint with either the U.S. Supreme Court or with the U.S. Marshall's office.   If either deny plausibility of providing you as an elected or appointed official under oath, it is your duty to make this know to those Representing you and to those whom you are serving under oath , the people.  Nice thing about this Revolution.  The Law is our weapon of choice and the vote.
 
 

5 comments:

  1. Re: “And Obama's paternal grandmother said, she was present at Obama's birth, which took place in Mombasa in what is now Kenya.”


    No she did NOT. If you are referring to the grandmother tape, this tape actually says that he was born in HAWAII. This occurs right after the interviewer asks the clear question: “Whereabouts was he born?”

    To hear the full recording of the Obama grandmother interview, go to: ?” http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/01/independent-grandmother-transcript/ (Click on full Sarah Obama Tape.)

    There are quite a few recordings and transcripts that cut the tape at the five minute mark. It is important to go to the full recording, which runs about nine minutes. You might ask yourself why anyone would want to cut the tape at five minutes when the answer to the question WHEREABOUTS WAS HE BORN? is after five minutes. The answer, sadly, is that they are not anxious for people to make up their own minds.


    There are no physical documents showing that he was born in Kenya, but the “birthers” explain this by saying that the Kenya government is part of the conspiracy and that it has blocked access to those documents. However, he very fact that Kenya had blocked access to certain documents would be possible to prove or disprove. WND’s claim that the files were blocked has not been substantiated by any news agency other than WND, and there are news agencies from all countries in Kenya, not only the US media.

    Here’s all the unlikely things that would have to happen for Obama to have been born in Kenya:

    (1) His mother would have had to travel to Kenya in 1961 when she was already pregnant. It was a relatively expensive and difficult trip (no direct flights), and airlines in those days often did not allow women to travel when they were visibly pregnant, even as early as five or six months. Why? Because of the chances of miscarriages.
    (2) She would have had to get a Yellow Fever shot, necessary at the time, which is bad for pregnant women.
    (3) She would have had to forgo one of the advantages of traveling, seeing the sights on the way to or from Kenya. (Or else there would be photos of her in such cities as London or Tokyo, or she would at least have talked about her trip, which someone could have remembered).
    (4) She would have had to have gone to Kenya and not been proud of the trip—how else to explain the lack of photos?
    (5) She would have had to have given birth in Kenya but never told anyone about that birth outside of her family. (Or someone would have remembered.)
    (6) She would have had to have given birth in Kenya, come right back with infant Obama on the airplane (or ship), and although many people must have seen her traveling with the child, then filed a Hawaii legal document saying that Obama was born in Hawaii. (It is unlikely that she lied at all, but to lie when people have seen you doing something different than you claim is risky.)
    (7) IF she had given birth in Kenya, she would have had to get either a Kenyan or a US travel document for her child to get him to Hawaii. If the former, there would be a record of a visa issued to Barak H. Obama Jr in Kenya. If the latter, there would be the record of a US passport issued to him or a revision of his mother’s passport IN KENYA. Those records would exist in US files. Yet no one has found them—and during the election campaign most likely someone would have looked.
    (8) Kenya would be part of the conspiracy because if Obama were born there, there would have to be Kenyan birth records, but the “birthers” claim that all the files are “sealed.” (There is no independent confirmation from newsagencies or newspapers that there are any files or that Kenya sealed anything.)
    (9) Or, if Obama’s parents did not lie about the place of birth, and the Certification of Live Birth issued by Hawaii is wrong about the listed place of birth—which is Hawaii--then the officials in Hawaii must be part of the conspiracy. At least three officials, two appointees of a Republican governor and a clerk.

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  2. You make some valid points as to Obama being born in Hawaii. I myself believe he was, but the certificate used to prove so is the same used by Hawaii to declare someone was born, and not neccessarially in Hawaii. Frank Davis comes to mind when I think on this. If Davis is the biological father, then it is without question Obama is an American born. Even if born in Kenya , I am not really understanding the laaw when the mother is American.

    The wise thing to do is to clear it up through a supreme Court review and even the the details may remain private. We just need closure on this.

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  3. RE: "but the certificate used to prove so is the same used by Hawaii to declare someone was born, and not neccessarially in Hawaii."

    ACTUALLY, it isn't. The key is the location of birth on the certificate. Hawaii currently issues a certification of live birth (COLB) even to people who were not born in Hawaii. BUT, two things about that.

    (1) That ability (to issue a document of birth to someone not born in Hawaii) was not available in 1961. Furthermore, in 1961 Hawaii could not even register foreign births in Hawaii. That was not possible under the law at the time, so the original MUST say that he was born in Hawaii.

    (2) Even now, post 1982 when the law was changed to allow registration of foreign births in Hawaii and the issue of a Hawaii COLB to someone who was not born in Hawaii, that document CANNOT LIE.

    By that I mean that if someone was born in New Jersey and Hawaii allowed the birth to be registered in Hawaii and a Hawaii COLB to be issued, the location of birth would NOT say Hawaii, it would say New Jersey.

    Now, as you know, or if not, take another look, Obama's COLB says that he was born in Hawaii. In Location: Honolulu, Island: Oahau; County: Honolulu.

    Moreover, there does not seem to be anyway to get around this. I have some evidence that if a child was born in Hawaii in 1961 outside of a hospital, the parents could not just go and say "he was born two days ago at home" because Hawaii demanded proof of the location of birth in that case, in the form of written statements from a doctor or a midwife. (But this would not apply because Obama was born in a Hospital.)

    So, what about the reports that Hawaii hospitals were all interviewed and none of them said that they had medical records for Obama or his family? The answer is that the group that did these interviews (who are not exactly impartial) quoted a hospital that said "we don't keep records as far back as 1961" as saying "we don't have records of Obama's birth or of his family being at the hospital."

    In fact, to believe that Obama was born anywhere else than Hawaii can mean nothing else than that one believes that two appointed officials of Hawaii (under a Republican administration) and one clerk all are part of a plot for Obama.

    Re: "We just need closure on this.'

    We do have closure. If Hawaii did not register foreign births in 1961 and demanded proof of birth in Hawaii of any child who was born outside of a hospital, then it would be impossible for Obama to have a COLB that says he was born in Hawaii if he wasn't.

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  4. If what you say is true, then why is it not being said?

    There is more then one reason to give to why there are no Hospital records, and why there is an Official copy, not an original.

    If it is that personal, let the ten Justices see the truth and be done with it. All this cloak and dagger is but camophloge. What is at hand is: The ignoring of the enermerated powers in the constitution invading the unenumerated Freedoms of the States, thus We the People. Fix this or it all comes down.

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  5. Re: "If what you say is true, then why is it not being said?'

    I have nothing against the case going to the Supreme Court because I know, just as I know that 2+2=4, that Obama was born in Hawaii.

    But, I'd like you and others who believe that there is a chance that Obama was born in Kenya that if the Supreme Court does not take the case, or if some lower court finds against your side (and it MUST start at a lower court), then the justices involved are all in agreement that there is NO evidence that he was born in Kenya and solid legal and logical evidence that he must have been born in Hawaii.

    At a time when Hawaii, or for that matter any state, does not register births from outside the state, and a birth is registered in the state's birth records files, then the birth certificate in the file cannot be from outside the state.

    So, you may ask, why doesn't he show the original birth certificate? Because Hawaii only sends out the COLB, so if he does not have a copy of the original saved from the time of birth, or has mislaid that original, all that he can post is the COLB. But, not to worry, the COLB is accepted as proof of birth in Hawaii by all the state agencies of Hawaii (yes including DHHL) an by the US State Department for issuing passports.

    And, two top officials of Hawaii (plus the clerk who sent out the first COLB) have looked into the file and said that they saw an original birth certificate.

    And in what year was the original birth certificate? 1961. And at that time did Hawaii register births from outside of Hawaii? No.

    QED

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