December 07, 2009

Honoring Soldiers on December 7th, Bud Day~Torture Defined |Democrats="Politics of Shame"

On this December 7th, let us Honor our Soldiers past and Present with acknowledgement by sharing the Truth from Bud Day on torture and the Liberal left's "Politics of Shame".


----- Original Message -----
From: Carol Perrin
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:03 PM
Subject: FW: Torture Defined


Medal of Honor
Bud Day
Speaks of Torture

I got shot down over N Vietnam in 1967,
A Sqdn. Commander.  
After I returned in 1973...I published 2 books that dealt a lot with "real torture" in Hanoi .
Our make believe president is branding our country as a bunch of torturers when
he has no idea what torture is.
As for me, put thru a mock execution because I would not respond... Pistol whipped on the head...same event..
Couple of days later... Hung by my feet all day.
I escaped and a couple of weeks later,
I got shot and recaptured.
Shot was OK...what happened afterwards was not.

They marched me to Vinh...put me in the rope trick, trick...almost pulled my arms out of the sockets.
Beat me on the head with a little wooden rod
Until my eyes were swelled shut,
And my unshot, unbroken hand a pulp.

Next day hung me by the arms...
Rebroke my right wrist...
Wiped out the nerves in my arms
That control the hands...
Rolled my fingers up into a ball.
Only left the slightest movement
Of my L forefinger.
So I started answering
With some incredible lies.
Sent me to Hanoi
Strapped to a barrel of gas
In the back of a truck.

On my knees....
Rope trick again..
Beaten by a big fool.
Into leg irons on a bed in Heartbreak Hotel.
Much kneeling--hands up at Zoo.
Really bad beating
For refusing to condemn
Lyndon Johnson.
Several more kneeling events.
I could see my knee bone
Thru kneeling holes.

There was an escape from the annex to the Zoo.  I was the Senior
Officer of a large building because of escape...they started a mass
Torture of all commanders.
I think it was July 7, 1969...they started beating me with a car fan
Belt.  In first 2 days I took over 300 strokes...then stopped counting
Because I never thought I would live thru it.
They continued day-night torture to get me to confess to a non-existent
Part in the escape.  This went on for at least 3 days.  On my knees....
Fan belting...cut open my scrotum with fan belt stroke.  Opened up
Both knee holes again.  My fanny looked like hamburger...I could not
Lie on my back.
They tortured me into admitting
That I was in on the escape...
And that my 2 room-mates knew about it.
The next day I denied the lie.
They commenced torturing me again
With 3- 6- or 9 strokes of the fan belt
Every day from about July 11 or 12th..
To 14 October 1969.
I continued to refuse to lie
About my roommates again.
Now, the point of this
Is that our make-believe president
Has declared to the world
That we (U.S..) are a bunch of torturers...
Thus it will be OK to torture us
Next time when they catch us...
Because that is what the U.S. Does.
Our make-believe president
Is a know nothing fool
Who thinks that pouring a little water
On some one's face,
Or hanging a pair of women's pants
Over an Arabs head is TORTURE.
He is a meathead.
I just talked to MOH holder Leo Thorsness,
Who was also in my squadron, in jail...
As was John McCain...
And we agree that McCain does not speak
For the POW group when he claims
That Al Gharib was torture...
Or that "water boarding" is torture.
Our president and those fools around him
Who keep bad mouthing our great country
Are a disgrace to the United States .
Please pass this info on to Sean Hannity.
He is free to use it to point out
The stupidity of the claims
That water boarding...
Which has no after effect...
Is torture.
If it got the Arab to cough up the story about how he planned the attack on the twin towers in NYC...
Hurrah for the guy who poured the water.

"Bud" Day, Medal Of Honor Recipient

George Everett "Bud" Day(born February 24, 1925) is a retired

U.S. Air Force Colonel and Command Pilot who served during the
Vietnam War. He is often cited as being the most decorated U.S.  
Service member since General Douglas MacArthur, having
Received some seventy decorations, a majority for actions
In combat. Day is a recipient of the Medal of Honor.
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On this December 7th, let us Honor our Soldiers past and Present with acknowledgement by sharing the Truth from Bud Day on torture and the Liberal left's "Politics of Shame".

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I finally found a site that explained why they think co2 is a global warming gas and why oxygen and nitrogen aren't ,but it also stated what I already knew. That the most common global warming gas is water vapor. Also that co2 is only 0.038 percent of the atmosphere.
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George Dunn

Constitutional Scholar read Health Care Bill 3200="the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government "

Wed Dec 2, 2009 5:02 pm (PST)


Someone did read the entire House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009


From Michael Connelly - Retired attorney,

Constitutional Law Instructor,

Carrollton, Texas


Well, I have done it! I have read the entire text of proposed House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of expertise, constitutional law... I was frankly concerned that parts of the proposed law that were being discussed might be unconstitutional.


 What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected.  To begin with, much of what has been said about the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats and the media are saying.  The law does provide for rationing of health care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of the medical profession.


The Bill will also eventually force private insurance companies out of business and put everyone into a government run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be made by federal bureaucrats and most of them will not be health care professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled.


However, as scary as all of that it, it just scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices. Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even been contemplated. If this law or a similar one is adopted, major portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have been destroyed.


The first thing to go will be the masterfully crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of the U.S. Government... The Congress will be transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of different areas over the lives of the American people and the businesses they own. The irony is that the Congress doesn't have any authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with. I defy anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care.


This legislation also provides for access by the appointees of the Obama administration of all of your personal healthcare information, your personal financial information, and the information of your employer, physician, and hospital. All of this is a direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution protecting against unreasonable searches and seizures. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th Amendments may provide.


If you decide not to have healthcare insurance or if you have private insurance that is not deemed "acceptable" to the "Health Choices Administrator" appointed by Obama there will be a tax imposed on you. It is called a "tax" instead of a fine because of the intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th Amendment.  However, that doesn't work because since there is nothing in the law that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax, it is definitely depriving someone of property without the "due process of law.


So, there are three of those pesky amendments that the far left hate so much out the original ten in the Bill of Rights that are effectively nullified by this law. It doesn't stop there though. The 9th Amendment  that provides: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people;" The 10th Amendment states: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are preserved to  the States respectively, or to the people." Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers at all in many areas that once were theirs to control.


I could write many more pages about this legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to "be bound by oath or affirmation" to support the Constitution. If I was a member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or anything like it without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or affirmation. If I voted for it anyway I would hope the American people would hold me accountable.


For those who might doubt the nature of this threat I suggest they consult the source. Here is a link to the Constitution:


And another to the Bill of Rights:


There you can see exactly what we are about to have taken from us.


Michael Connelly

Retired attorney,

Constitutional Law Instructor

Carrollton, Texas



below is authenticity of the above 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:09 AM
Subject: [ronpaul-39] Someone read the Health bill for Constitutionality


Dear Guy:


  Thank you for your inquiry. Yes, I did write this article. You can find the original on my website and blog as well as more recent articles I have written on the same subject matter. The link is below. You can also go to the "About" page of the website to view my credentials.


Best regards,




Michael Connelly Personal website and Blog  


Author of "The Mortarmen" a book about my father's unit in WWII;

"Riders in the Sky: The Ghosts and Legends of Philmont Scout Ranch" ;

and my just released novel "Amayehli: A Story of America".


I also teach law courses via the Internet through colleges and universities worldwide. To find a college or university near you, go to Education To Go's website at






Subject: Re: Someone read the Health bill for Constitutionality  

Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 08:54:11 -0500


 Mr. Connelly,


 Before I circulate this, would you please confirm this as your handiwork?


 Thank you in advance for your assistance.


 Best regards,




Guy R. Holland, CFP  

Tax & Financial Planning, since 1975  

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