YOur Cashflow is taxed twice, wages & embedded in price of product, same tax twice

Your Cash flow is taxed when you work and again when you spend(embedded), the same tax paid twice.  FairTax ends the first tax and shares the second with imports. Think!

FairTax will save Social Security and move us from this Fiscal cliff with the middle class getting a substantial rise in their cashflow.

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FairTax Facts

Why, as Presidential Candidates, no one speaks to why Romney Bained US Jobs, hey Heritage?

Romney is currently under fire for his Bain Capital buying up failing US Companies and moving the jobs overseas.  Is it his fault he had such an opportunity? No, but running for President and not offering the solution that will stop such, is.
When we went to free trade, we keep the production tax.  This article speaks to keeping this same tax, flat or not.  Production tax places all tax expense into the price of the product produced, 22% average on goods and 29% on services.
If we are to get back employment, we need to change the tax structure, not tweak it as Heritage is advocating, just as if they are a think tank for the Establishment.  Read this blogg and then go to the top of the blogg and find a link to another blogg on the flat tax v. VAT v. FairTax.  The income flat tax proposed is simply the hitting of the reset button on the over 1,400 amendments to the IRS tax code for the purpose of selling the graft all over again by congress greed.

http://rgeorgedunn.blogspot.com/p/america-where-did-we-go-wrong.html

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If everyone knew all there is to know, they would not do half the things they do, including myself, therefore I must foregive them, including myself.

Re: A Supercommittee Tax-Hike Surrender Means Republicans Would Snatch Defeat from the Jaws of Victory

Mr. Miller and the Ways and Means Committee,

I agree with your idea Mr Miller, 'budgetary savings of a sequester', but with over 50% of America not contributing to Federal tax revenue, there is not enough time to cut enough to maintain our nation fiscally until we can change the Tax structure and begin to grow our way out, leading the world in Prosperity and new trade value known as the FairTax Plan being replicated world wide, balancing free trade.

Mr. Cain has provided a two step plan to take the shock out of the transparancy of the consumption tax.  But by removing the embedded IRS Code taxes from the price of domestic product, US Industry will gain a 15% advantage in trade with imports, by sharing the burden of Federal taxes equally, instead of the excise burden on our own products as is today, as well as under the offered flat tax by Perry and Romney.

The International fiscal plan for the USA is more of the same. Liberty comes from empowering we the people into prosperity, beyond measure.  To not stand up now for the FairTax plan is, well, need I say?

Thus, we need the taxation increase to get us thru the next few years, with the promise of growth in return. President Obama has of last, demanded tax on only income over one million dollars.  Provide this with the insistance of FairTax being implemented asap.

Sincerely,

R. George Dunn

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If everyone knew all there is to know, they would not do half the things they do, including myself, therefore I must foregive them, including myself.

FreedomWorks is organizing the Teaparty Patriots to support the deathly flattax. Stop them for the Fairtax

Walt Bagley ~

I went to a tea party event the other evening. There was a talk on the FairTax followed by a talk on the flat tax. Followed by a Q & A session. The flat tax was presented by the state director for Freedom Works. He said he thinks the FairTax is a great idea "BUT". He said you have to repeal the 16th amendment first but there has only been one amendment that was ever repealed. The process is too hard. We would not want to have both the FairTax and then have Congress introduce a new income tax during the seven year period we are trying to repeal the amendment. A flat tax would be easier to pass through Congress. He did say he was not promoting HR-1040 but did not have an actual bill for a flat tax.

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FreedomWorks to Host Grassroots Boot Camp

Press availability on Monday June 27^th at 10am in the FreedomWorks office

--(BUSINESS WIRE)--FreedomWorks:

"We think about the Tea party movement in phases"

WHAT: FreedomWorks will be hosting some of the top grassroots activists from across the country for a comprehensive training boot camp from June 24-27^th in the FreedomWorks Headquarters. These activists will be leading the charge on numerous state and national battles in the months leading into the 2012 elections....cont

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My comment:

We have witnessed the Freedomworks Group leaders bury a polling done on what is the most important issue. Fairtax gained 90%<> support and the closest competitive plank was flattax at 7%. There has been an underlying fear of this group not being true to the Patriot cause. Now we have evidence .  The Flattax was used by President Reagan when he gave us freetrade to counter the effects of a closed border tax in an open border trade policy. We have witness the effect of leaving the same tax structure in place by streamlining it.  Congress has sold lobbyists over 1,200 amendments to the Reagan flattax. Now we have what appears to be an stealth RINO group attempting to stir us into the same destructive plan.

 We have lost jobs steadily since free trade was implemented and we have seen our Nations deficit spending increase every year, even in what they claimed to be prosperous years.  We have been told service jobs will replace our lost industry, that high tech industry will sustain our growth fiscally. None of this was true.

The question must be asked, why would our smartest leaders in Washington act so dumb? What is their mission?  It certainly is not for the benefit of the American people, either party.  If you step back, you will see how both parties have danced us down this road of socialism until we are now on the brink of fiscal collapse. Ask yourself, why would DC not change when the GOP gain the two branches Under President Bush43. It upset the puppet master who found his strings suddenly all wound up. So what became the mission, pork pork pork. 

Let us not let our new found wakeup teaparty Patriot mission be stirred into the ditch. Stand against this attempt to squish our path to liberty and freedom. With Fairtax, be sure to follow up with Constitutional conduct. Begin by reducing non entitlement spending 10% every year until it is cleaned up. Enact Fairtax to gain back our industry, Make a date certain with a 25 yr plan to transition all entitlements back to the States our the individual by recommending private HSA/IRAs locally invested.  This will end unconstitutional action by the Federal Government, reducing their taxation by over 90%, leaving we the people and our States the revenue needed to do what is the power entitled by the Constitution.

State legislatures need to be held accountable for their actions in nullifying the tyrannical coupe by the Federal Government. In them lies the immediate Power to get this done. The Article five of the Constitution holds the key to control over our Federal Government. The preached fears of a Constitutional Convention destroying the Constitution is false. Any resolution in that Convention must meet the approval of 38 State legislatures. That is a far less threat then the Coupe that is happening right before our eyes.  Remember the frog in a cold water filled frying pan, who did not see the change in temperature until he cooked to death. Our apathy has near destroyed us. Jump People, for our Liberty!!!

To understand how our Nation got to this fiscal mess and what is needed to fix it,
go to this page http://bit.ly/c9u3X3

The future for our Children's children depends on our tenacity to Re-Founding America, now~ 

Here is undeniable proof Freedomworks is for keeping the corrupting current tax structure and leaving the federal taxes embedded in American good:  http://t.co/RwQyTQD
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If everyone knew all there is to know, they would not do half the things they do, including myself, therefore I must forgive them, including myself.

'A Simple Plan for America's Economic Revival'~successful Businessman Tim Searfoss w/Glenn Wilson

A Simple Plan for America's Economic Revival

without increasing

Spending, Taxation or National Debt

A note to our legislators and fellow citizens

By Tim Searfoss, founder and co-owner of Roll-Rite LLC & Searfoss Developments LLC

Written in cooperation with Glenn Wilson, owner of M-33 Access

As a northern Michigan entrepreneur, I’ve had

the pleasure to deal with business owners

from all over the world. I have also come to

see how America has caused its own

competitive disadvantage in the world’s

economy.

Along with many Americans, I invested a lot

of money and time in the 2010 congressional

elections. We managed to get some fresh

legislators in place with hopes of changing

our country around before it is too late. Our

new legislators are Americans just like the

rest of us, with the same hope for the future

and the same dreams for their families. They

understand they were elected to help bring our

nation’s economy to the robust state that our

citizens have every right and reason to expect.

Yet, I fear they do not know how to

accomplish this.

Faced with lobbyists and their multi-million

dollar backers, our legislators are kept in the

dark right along with the rest of us. Attended

to by special interests with a one-sided

agenda, they feel obligated to heed the

greatest hew and loudest cry. Thus, it is all

too often easy for our leaders to develop a sort

of tunnel vision. Working there, in the halls

of congress, far removed from constituents

and no longer a part of the daily, street-level

conversation back home, it is easy for our

• 15 million people are unemployed in the

United States. America, once the arsenal for

democracy and the world’s leading

manufacturing country, has seen its economic

influence wane.

• Since 2001, the United States has lost

approximately 42,400 factories. About 75-

percent of those factories employed more than

500 people when they were in operation.

• According to a new study conducted by the

Economic Policy Institute, if the U.S. trade

deficit with China continues to increase at its

current rate, the U.S. economy will lose over

half a million jobs this year alone

• Dell Inc., one of America’s largest

manufacturers of computers, has announced

plans to dramatically expand its operations in

China with an investment of over $100 billion

over the next decade.

• Dell has recently announced that it will be

closing its last large U.S. manufacturing facility

in Winston-Salem, North Carolina in November;

approximately 900 jobs will be lost.

• In 2008, 1.2 billion cell phones were sold

worldwide. Zero were manufactured in the

United States, and we are the world’s second

largest cellular phone market, with more than

153 million subscribers.

legislators to lose sight of their mission.

We have to take a different approach but before we do, consider this: There are states in this

country with more than 40 million laws on the books. Certainly many of those laws are

redundant, contradictory and irrelevant; many were probably unnecessary in the first place. It

should lead us to wonder how many laws the federal government has. It is time to review these

archaic and unneeded laws, eliminate those we no longer need and streamline our legal process.

Time is of the essence here. If we let this go it will only get harder, if not impossible, to fix.

Then, as history will tell our story, we will have been the great nation that once was.

TO FIX THIS MESS WE NEED TO DEREGULATE

Perhaps the biggest hurdle to economic growth is our self-defeating habit of addressing issues

with regulation. In passing the enforcement of these new regulations off to government

agencies, we increase their authority over every aspect of our lives, while stifling business,

reducing jobs and increasing the size of government.

This is not what we need. The solution is deregulation and smaller government. We need to rein

in agencies like the EPA, DEQ, DNR, FCC and others. These state and federal bureaucracies

have taken on lives of their own while the people who run them focus on funding, gaining power

and protection of their own job security. Unlike the private sector, their compensation is not

performance based and unlike elected officials these agency administrators cannot be removed

from office when their actions are proven to be counter-productive. They survive and continue

on forever, often shifting from political appointment to civil service positions to protect

themselves.

It is up to our elected officials to put a stop to this.

ENERGY IN OUR OWN BACKYARD

Deregulation does not mean turning our backs on the environmental lessons we’ve learned over

the past decades. Through the use of new technologies, industry and conservation can and must

coexist. That is tantamount to our argument because energy is the number one place to begin our

return to economic prosperity and our nation’s return to a balanced budget.

Right now the U.S. is sitting on some of the largest unclaimed and undiscovered oil reserves in

the world. By opening our federal lands to new oil leases our treasury would gain trillions of

dollars as mineral rights that could go to pay down the national debt.

Oil-bearing formations such as the Bakken, ANWR, Green River and elsewhere offer our nation

oil independence for thousands of years, if only we use it.

Instead, we force companies such as B.P., Exxon and others to go 40 miles off-shore in search of

our nation’s energy. Why? Because overblown environmental concerns and the burden of

regulation have put a stop to America’s oil industry while vast amounts of oil lie untapped and

out of reach just beneath our feet.

Through the use of new technologies, oil that was once thought unattainable can now be

harvested. Even today, Canada uses existing methods of extraction to collect oil from the same

tar sands and oil shale that lie below Montana. While the high and sustained cost of oil makes it

easy for America’s energy industry to bring our nation’s oil to market, we buy oil from Canada as

fast as they can produce it.

If we made a concerted effort to produce our own energy, to meet our nation’s needs, the benefits

would extend through the American economy. More crude oil than ever flowing from new

American oil wells would require us to build new refineries, spawning thousands of jobs,

requiring tons of materials and spawning off-shoot industries. Orders for everything from raw

iron ore to heavy equipment, from office space to housing would skyrocket. Industries as diverse

as steel and engineering, mining and manufacturing, construction and finance would all play

major roles.

Through it all would be the ever increasing call for manpower and labor as America experienced

the beginnings of a new industrial revolution.

REAL ENVIRONMENTALISM

Enough of the idle green talk – want to improve the environment? Let’s do it, starting with our

power grid!

Most of our energy comes from coal, which is both plentiful and inexpensive. But aren’t coal

plants dirty? Yes, the coal-fired energy plants in use today were designed to operate for 25 years

and that time frame ran out long ago. We can and should clean this up by building new coal

plants that are 100 times cleaner that the ones they replace. To do so would require thousands of

workers and enormous amounts of American-made materials. We have hundreds of year’s worth

of coal and power plants will last only a fraction of this time. Imagine the technologies that will

be available by the time these new plants are worn out.

Using American steel to build these new plants will require lots of iron ore. Again, we can put

American resources to work for America by mining the ore right here at home and we can do it

safely, with an eye on the environment. What stops this from happening? Regulation. (Are we

seeing a pattern?) Let’s not forget: These mines will require lots of American labor, too.

You like gas plants because they are cleaner than coal? Good idea, but your light bill will

increase in cost about seven times and the nation’s economic growth will be slowed because of

that extra cost.

Want to really talk green? Let’s talk nuclear energy, the cleanest energy there is. Before we do,

we’ll need to remove the regulations that stand in nuclear energy’s way. Once the way is cleared,

construction of efficient and environmentally-mindful nuclear energy plants will require more

American-made materials and put even more American workers back on the payroll.

Remember, when we build things people have jobs. When people have jobs they buy things.

Maybe it’s a home, a car or other products, but making the things that people buy puts more

people to work and results in more people paying taxes.

ACCESS TO CAPITAL FOR BUSINESS GROWTH

How do we put all of this in motion? Remove the regulations that keep banks from loaning

money to entrepreneurs. Let the business man do his job – building business, hiring workers and

moving our economy forward. Once again, government is in the way. The Financial Reform Act

of 2010 shut down all our financial institutions except those needing regulation the most –

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack.

What else can government do to help? Back up our financial institutions by protecting loans

written to business owners who are looking to expand and hire. With access to new capital,

business can finally start up and begin to grow again. Sure some may fail, but maybe it is time

that our political leaders served the folks who elected them rather than the moneyed elite who

bought the election. Rather than sending trillions of dollars to Wall Street, how about we spend it

on Main Street for a change?

INTELLIGENT TAXATION

Another thing we must address is taxes. This entire concept of making business absorb our tax

burden is absurd and has to end. Remove the repressive tax burden from business, and products

that were once built here in America could be profitably manufactured and sold here once again.

If we want America to succeed and gain back the economic glory we once held, we need to

manufacture products here that can compete on the world’s markets.

If we eliminate business taxes, prices will drop, our nation’s manufacturers can sell more

products both here and abroad, and millions more Americans will be returned to work. Imagine

not having a large enough work force. That problem would be easier to handle than millions of

jobless workers riding unemployment for years at a time.

The intelligent solution is to eliminate income taxes all together, not just for business but for

individuals as well. That’s a scary thought: How do we replace government funding? For one

thing, with government regulation out of the way and agency workforces returned to the private

sector, government would be smaller. To replace the remaining lost revenue, let’s create a broad

consumption tax on all goods sold in this country and let’s limit that tax to 8-percent.

Not enough you say? Think about this: Everything sold in this country would be taxed at point

of sale. Imported products, whose profits return to the overseas manufacturers, would be taxed.

Purchases made by cash businesses or by those skirting the law, whether legitimate businesses or

not, would now be taxed. Products made anywhere in the world and purchased here would be

taxed. Everyone would pay their fair share and the tax burden would be smaller on all of us.

You think folks would rebel if they had to pay a national sales tax? I don’t think so. Not if the

income tax that was once deducted from their paychecks is now in their pocket. That is more

money they would have to spend every week. More products sold means more workers needed

to produce more things.

With a smaller tax burden, the American company can be more competitive in the world

economy and manufacturing can return to this country. The freight cost difference alone would

make American-made goods more competitive in the domestic market.

LEANER GOVERNMENT

In the proposals laid out above you’ll notice that government spending does not increase.

Revenue, however, does increase.

With government regulation out of the way, investments made by domestic oil producers will

generate trillions of dollars through oil leases and mineral rights. As revenues from those

ventures spread through the economy and beyond the oil industry, the creation of new jobs will

increase and revenues from taxes will rise.

All that government really need do is to step out of the way of America’s industry and business

and stick to the minimal role it is supposed to play in the lives of American citizens. With less

work on its hands, government will get smaller, with fewer public employees drawing tax

supported salaries and more privately-employed producers contributing to taxes.

WHAT ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY, HEALTH CARE AND EDUCATION?

Social Security should continue to be funded through payroll taxes. But the federal government

needs to go back, calculate the trillions of dollars it has withdrawn from the Social Security Trust

Funds, and pay this money back with interest. Americans would be shocked at how large this

fund would be. Then consider the impact of 20 million new contributors to Social Security as a

result of economic growth. Congress would not have to pass any new laws or borrow any money

to keep Social Security solvent.

What about health care? First thing, throw out that menagerie of costly payouts passed under the

guise of health care reform. Then do what should have been done in the first place. To fix health

care government did not need to spend one dime and it certainly did not need to take over the

most efficient, though costly, health care system in the world. Instead, to lower health care costs,

congress should have given citizens tort reform, allowed us to shop for insurance across state

lines and enabled people to pool resources to buy insurance at better premiums. Tort reform

alone could have cut the country’s health care costs by 30-percent.

On the education front, there is plenty of savings to be had. Our schools and universities have

grown like government departments, focused on growth through larger appropriations.

Education expenditures no longer reflect the true value of our investments. For the billions of

dollars spent on education, we have failed to teach our youth how to be productive citizens and

instead we’ve taught them to be mere consumers. It is time to re-evaluate that approach. With

the average American tradesman approaching 50-years-old, we need to teach youth once again

that trades can be a noble career. If we want to get our economy rolling, and put American

workers back to work, we need trained laborers who know how to produce and are not afraid of a

hard day’s work.

The United States was built on a strong ethic of hard work, where folks planned for more than

mere survival and proudly labored to improve their station in life. In recent decades, as our

economy eroded and our jobs were sent to foreign shores, we have witnessed a shift in that ethic;

we’ve begun consuming more than we produce, feeding off the labor of the generations that

preceded us and killing ourselves over the crumbs of a once great nation.

ACTION SUMMARY

We cannot simply fire up 40,000 idle factories and start production, no more than we can build

homes and hope they sell. To begin our nation’s recovery, we must start by producing something

here that is in demand and something that the market can afford. That is energy. Investing in

America’s energy creates jobs here, builds revenue for our nation’s treasury and strengthens our

economy overall.

Unfortunately, the hopes for any dream dims when we look at our current tax structure. To

encourage solid and prolonged economic growth we must move the tax burden from the

production end of the cycle where it stifles development, and place it at the consumption level

where it belongs. When that occurs, investments will again be made in America’s manufacturing

sector where the potential for job growth really lies.

We need our legislators to become a part of the solution, rather than remaining a part of the

problem. It will take leaders who have the courage and personal strength to challenge the

existing political order to fulfill the hopes of the voters who elected them. Through deregulation,

leaner government, expansion of domestic energy sources, real environmentalism, improved

access to capital and intelligent taxation, we can create the 20-million jobs we need and reverse

America’s declining role in the world economy.

I believe we are ALL either part of the problem or part of the solution. I prefer to be part of the

solution, if not for myself, then for my children and grandchildren. I hate to see this fine country

in the condition that we find it today. That is why I deliver this message to anyone and everyone

who wants to be a part of the solution.

As a nation together we need to change the politics-as-usual. We normal citizens do not have the

ability to write laws or repeal legislation, nor do we get to dictate what government agencies do

or how they go about doing it. Only our legislators can do this. We vote for folks each election

in the good faith that they will represent the ideals and values of the citizens back home in their

districts. Still, we are often disappointed when special interests representing the few are able to

distract our elected officials from their honored mission.

This plan, when enacted, WILL produce the 20-MILLION jobs we need! This plan will get the

American economy rolling again. And most of all, this plan will generate trillions of dollars in

royalty revenue through the harvest of oil from federal lands. It is our oil, and the revenue

produced will go to our government. Let’s hope our leaders will put it to good use.

I will be happy to explain further to anyone who desires.

– Tim Searfoss

Once was a Great Nation

A Value-Added Tax Won't Solve the Deficit Crisis | Only FairTax & Constitution can

A Value-Added Tax Won't Solve the Deficit Crisis

by Brian Garst
As Congress prepares to raise the debt ceiling by $1.8 trillion, there are renewed calls from political elites for a value-added tax in America. The New York Times all but campaigned for the idea while touting it as a possible "cure for deficits." But a VAT would do nothing to solve our deficit problem. Rather, it would supply new fuel to big government bureaucrats addicted to spending....full article
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my comment:

Employment is the only method of growing revenue.  VAT will further harm the American Manufacturing.  FairTax will have the effect of creating so many jobs, we will have inflation based on employee income for once.  Not since the Federal Reserve appeared, have we experienced this.  FairTax please.

As to a balanced budget, it is not necessary, not if we would have a Constitutional Budget.  Spending at the federal level would reduce dramatically, taking back all the looted taxes to the States to manage their own affair.  I never could understand how the Federal tax would be more then the State tax.  Today, the equivalent to replace our production tax by a consumption tax is at least 23%.  It should be around 3 to 5 %.  A State with FairTax under the Federal Gov. Constitutional budget would rise, no would remain the same or drop as domestic production would flourish. 

What was the good old days will not be able to stand up to the prosperity if we FairTaxed and all became Federalist=went by the Constitution.

George